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CONVERSATION WITH LUCIFER BOOK III
CONVERSATION WITH LUCIFER BOOK III

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CONVERSATION WITH LUCIFER BOOK III

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The example you gave—is Christ, who had this great power to transform negative energies. He did not take your sins upon himself, as is commonly believed, but instead transformed the massive layers of negative energy accumulated by humanity, passing them through himself, and manifested them in your world in their pure, original divine form, shining with the fire of purification. In this way, he cleansed the karma of the planet and the karma of humanity—neutralizing the connections and pathways of accumulated negative energy—and freed you from the burden of receiving and processing that energy. Because in the quantum world, everything is connected, and nothing disappears. Because everything you send into the world will return to you sooner or later, because it is yours.

Therefore, if you feel joy and love, upliftment, and elevation, it means that you are accepting the energy of joy from someone and perhaps passing it on. If you keep this energy within yourself, it will continually be colored by your characteristics, your marks. And sooner or later, it will find an outlet, but it will already be a different energy. So, if you keep it within yourself, you must understand your responsibility for maintaining its purity. You must either fill it with brighter tones and pass it on, or give it away immediately. And there is nothing wrong with that; you are all still learning to work with your energies. And sooner or later, you will learn. If someone feels compassion, it means they have taken someone's negativity and processed it within themselves. And in a processed form, they returned it or passed it on to others. Everything is an exchange of energy.

There are many configurations of energetic interaction. But the main thing you must understand is that you are responsible for it. The feelings you experience are your choice, and you will accept the consequences of your choice. And if someone is constantly joyful, it does not mean they are stealing joy. It is their choice of a joyful essence, their choice of the type of energy exchange. And if someone is compassionate, it is their choice of the path of compassion, their choice of energy exchange. And if someone is negative, it is also their choice.

By choosing the path of joy, you separate yourself from negative energy exchange.

By choosing the path of anger, you separate yourself from joyful energy exchange.

By choosing the path of compassion, you choose both paths and transmute them within yourself. And these are different paths. And different stages of your learning. And different stages of maturing and learning to handle energies.

Therefore, returning to your question about the Planetary Spirit and its choice, the same thing happens to it as to you, but on a higher level. It tried to accept the energies of negativity and process them within itself, but it couldn't. Perhaps it lacked the ability. Perhaps there was too much of your negativity. And it accumulated this in vessels, separated them to try to process them individually. Into the vessel of suffering. Into the vessel of death, into the vessel of greed, and so on. And now it is dealing with their processing.

And since it kept them, literally, within itself, they became colored by its characteristics. You must understand that it did not pass them on, and that is its kind of sacrifice. It tried to protect the Cosmos from the negativity that was growing in you. But its mistake was that it did not ask for help from above when it realized its problems and realized that it lacked the power to neutralize it. And this does not mean at all that it generated these negative energies. You did that.

But it imposed religions on us, which partially generated these negative energies. Didn’t it?

It did not calculate those probabilities and did it for the greater good, as it believed. It wanted to protect you, like children, from potential dangers of the outside world. But what happened, happened.

In any case, I understand your desire to know the whole truth, but you are on the path of seeking someone to blame on the outside, not understanding that you are all One. You are Sanat Kumara, do you understand? You just don’t yet realize yourself as a conscious part of it. And you made that decision. And you did it too, just like all the other parts of it. Learn to think as parts of the Whole. Nothing exists separately. Everything is part of something greater, part of the Whole, and is, in essence, this Whole.

Therefore, right now, you don't need to look for someone to blame. Guilt does not exist. I’ve already said: there is receiving the consequences of your choices. And since you, as a part of Sanat, made your choices unconsciously, you will accept, like all others, the partial consequences of your choices. But if someone made those choices consciously on your behalf, they will accept the consequences of those choices to a greater extent. And all of you together, as a single Planetary Spirit, will accept the consequences of your human development. And there should be no fear in this; it is a conscious step towards healing. And maybe for some, the medicine will be bitter, but there is no other way.

Become aware. Accept the consequences of your choices, at least on your level. Consciously accept the consequences of your choices at the level of your personality. And realize that there is no one to blame outside. There is you and YOU. And that is all one. And by calmly—without aggression and seeking to blame others—accepting the consequences of your choices, you learn to be independent, you learn the responsibility of creators of your reality. And then, if your shared reality does not satisfy you, if you don't like it as humanity, start repainting it, redrawing it, recreating it, transforming it. You have all the colors of the world.

And if you want to create a world of joy and harmony, then create it! Accept your negativity and transmute it, to begin with, into the energy of joy and love. Many of you are already doing this and have done so. And if you have managed to transform your personal reality into a reality of joy and love, then help others do the same—accept their negativity and transmute it into the energy of joy and love. And let this energy, at the first transitional stage, be felt by you as the energy of compassion. And maybe in the process, you will experience some discomfort from the influence of negative energies, but if this is your conscious path, no one can stop it, no one can stop this process. And sooner or later, you will process this energy into the energy of joy and love and build the world you choose.

You are called the Prince of Darkness. And you are telling me how to build a path of joy?

Within me exists both Light and Darkness. And this is my choice. I emit both energies and try to merge and reconcile them. I observe how one energy transitions into the other within me and what happens during this process. I am a testing ground for the merging of energies. With each person, I interact with the side of myself that best corresponds to them. With you, I communicate through the light side of myself, the part that resonates with you.

Thank you. I want to ask something else, not related to this. There are many people who read our conversations and are grateful for them because these conversations uncover layers of energy within them, revealing new understandings. But there are also some who utterly reject them, accusing me of spreading Satanism, leading thousands astray. What do you have to say about this?

Everyone aligns with a particular type of energy exchange. Breaking away from stereotypes of thinking, from familiar energy exchanges, can sometimes be painful. You are parting with old dogmas of subjugation, the dogmas of causing harm, of blaming someone, of violence. The dogmas of delusion—there are many more to list. You know this yourself. All these dogmas must be transmuted into new concepts, living and changing concepts that encompass a multitude of nuances and differences, corresponding to the many distinctions in energy exchanges within you and within all humanity. Like the riot of colors. Like the multitude of patterns of force and magnetic lines.

Thus, subjugation is transformed into agreement, into interaction. Causing harm is transformed into compassion. Blame is transformed into responsibility. Violence is transformed into giving and love. Delusion is transformed into awareness, and so on. No one can make a choice for you. Everyone makes it themselves and accepts the consequences of their choice.

But there are many who are so accustomed to existing within the old paradigms and so fearful of freedom that they cannot calmly accept the consequences of their choice. These are the ones who shout about it. You must have a lot of patience and compassion for them. Therefore, you are free to make your own choice. You can absorb their energies and transmute them within yourself if you have the capability and strength for it. In any case, it is a valuable experience. But it is difficult. Because for this, for transmutation, you must remove all your attachments that they can latch onto in their desire to hold onto the old worldview, which is now crumbling before their eyes. It is not an easy path, in some ways, it is the Path of Jesus.

But you can continue to live in your joyful world and choose not to engage with them—choosing your own path to joy and to God, and discovering new Divine energies within yourself.

And since other people read what you write, your choice is quite serious. Because, on one hand, when you interact with those who are still unable to let go of the old dogmas, you take on some of their energy. And if you cannot transmute it, you will inevitably color yourself with it and the information you receive. Consequently, you will distort it. But on the other hand, the experience of transmuting negative energies into compassion is very valuable; it is a beautiful path, accessible to few, and it also helps others on their journey. Therefore, the choice is yours.

But I would advise you for now to simply learn to maintain a constant presence of the new energies within you—the energies of the new world, the energies of joy that you have chosen. By perfecting yourself in this way, first of all, you accumulate your power; secondly, you systematically cleanse yourself of negative energies; and thirdly, you purify the quality of your reception of information and, accordingly, transmit it to others in a purer form. Later, when your power grows, you can begin to try transmuting the energies of others. But for now, you can only transmute your own energies.

But the choice is yours. And everyone's.

Transition.

Please provide an understanding of the destructive and constructive energy exchange of primary civilizations (Orion, Anunnaki, Greys, etc.) in their relationship with the observer—the human.

Both types of energy exchanges differ only in direction—giving and receiving, merging and separating. For any essence to exist, it needs life energy, which you call prana, or life force, or chi. This is the energy of the Absolute, inexhaustible and eternal, that which drives and renews all living things. Destructive entities, by separating from their Creator, sever their energy ties with Him, and in order to exist as forms apart from their source, they must feed on someone else's energy. Thus, their energy exchange is the capture and appropriation of another's energy. Entities following the constructive path of development replenish their life energy reserves by connecting to a more powerful union of Souls; this is the method of merging, collectivism, unity.

In constructive interaction, everyone contributes their part to the overall energy configuration and, through this unity, gains their strength. Therefore, in a constructive community of Souls, there is no need to measure one's strength, as it is shared by all within the community. In the destructive path, it is characteristic to measure strength and fight for possession of power, for possession of the opponent's energy.

Humans are somewhat in the middle of these two paths. Some more so, others less, but very few people use someone else's energy with authorization.

How can we imagine the energy exchange of technogenic civilizations, scenario-based, energetic in relation to humans? What is the equivalent of exchange and why?

Technogenic civilizations seek sources of life and emotional expressions in humanity, which they lost long ago. Human energy, in that sense, is "tasty" for them. They feed on it as you would on delicacies. Your sensory parameters are unique; perhaps there is no such range of emotional characteristics of interaction in the entire Galaxy. A riot of colors, so to speak. As an analogy, I can give you an accessible example: just as your women moisturize dry skin with various balms, so too do technogenic civilizations absorb your emotions for their restoration, for the opportunity to feed on emotions unavailable to them. For them, it's a kind of drug, highly valued. Thus, one equivalent is the emotional characteristics of your energy fields.

The second direction is the maintenance of life and the creation of new life. Technogenic civilizations have lost the ability to self-reproduce in the way that you can. They study your processes of fertilization and the birth of life. But what primarily interests them is not the birth itself but the energy released as a result of this birth. They try to use it to prolong life, like elixirs of youth.

And the third direction is the crossbreeding of species to produce new species.

How will the evolution of destructive energy exchange in 3D unfold under the influence of the increasing frequencies of Earth-Gaia?

Gaia has chosen the path of merging, the constructive path, so her choice is incompatible with destructive scenarios. But humanity does not live disconnected from Gaia; it is connected to her as a source of nourishment. Through the forces of nature, you are all connected to the life energy present in Gaia. As Gaia's frequencies rise, the energy characteristics of those who have not lost their connection with nature and the planet will increase. This will manifest in the opening of various abilities, improvement in health, and an increase in life force. Those who become more distant from nature will experience a decline in strength, negative emotions, and a lack of will to live. Such people will become ill, and unfortunately, there will be attempts at suicide. In any case, since Gaia has chosen the constructive path of development, destructive elements will be removed from her in accordance with her choice.

If Gaia's choice is incompatible with destructive scenarios, then the question arises: are there ultimate time limits for the existence of the scenario we are witnessing today? Or are we talking about hundreds of years?

For how many years will this process continue?

Likely for several decades.

Will the male and female types of energy exchange play a role?

The division between male and female energies will remain, but it will transform. These energies will no longer be antagonistic. You will gain the ability to change gender at will or exist in androgyny by the fifth level. On the fourth level, there will be balanced energy exchange. Currently, you are divided into men and women, and gender predominates in energy exchange, at least for most people. In other words, if it’s a man, the energy exchange is more active; if it’s a woman, it’s more passive. In 4D, you will interact through your parts, your inclusions. For example, the feminine traits in a man will interact with the feminine traits in a woman, and the masculine traits in a man will interact with the masculine traits in a woman, and vice versa.

In other words, you will learn to merge your fields when forming pairs, correlating them based on your inner fullness. In such interactions, you will no longer distinguish what is feminine in you or not in you; your feminine side will merge with her feminine side, creating a unified being. Her masculine side will merge with the masculine in you, also forming a unified being. Simply put, you will always understand each other because the man in you will converse with the man in her, and the woman in you will converse with the woman in her. Regardless of how much of these qualities each person has, this will be an integration of energies and harmony.

Will the Architect be able to create his own space, analogous to the current human perception, in the near future?

Why would he create an analogous space? The forces you refer to as the Architect create something like a framework, a support, basic characteristics. They don't even create but regulate. The creation of space is a joint creation of many forces, including the planet and humanity as a whole. You can compare it to honeycombs and honey. The Architect creates the honeycombs, the configuration that will be filled. What kind of "honey" they will be filled with depends on the bees—in this case, all participants in the process, everyone living on Gaia.

How will a person perceive the transition to 4D—gradually, with the replacement of one block of consciousness by another (and categories), or instantly? And if it is conscious (for some), how will the scenario be constructed, and by whom?

It will likely be less about replacing blocks of consciousness and more about opening those parts of consciousness where blocks exist. It will be like remembering something, a déjà vu. Suddenly, knowledge about many things that were previously hidden will awaken, including knowledge about events. A person lives out their scenarios on several levels, as they are multidimensional, so the memory of parallel lives will begin to return. It’s like recognition. You suddenly remember something that didn’t happen to you, but you already know it did. Since the space will become very malleable, more so than in 3D, the speed of perception and change will increase. On this new level, you will discover many creative possibilities, what you call "wish fulfillment." This will be one of the most exciting sensations for you. Another sensation will be the rapid, almost instantaneous movement of consciousness following a thought. That is, you think of a place, and you find yourself there. At first, most of you will simply amuse yourselves with these abilities and won’t be able to get used to them for some time. In the new society, all thoughts are open. There are no private thoughts; all your thoughts will be audible to everyone, so you are being trained in mental discipline.

The scenario will be multifaceted. It’s as if your directors were filming a movie with crowd scenes. In this case, there is no chaos. The actions of each extra are carefully rehearsed. The same goes for you. Everyone has guidance. The development scenario for each person is constructed by their curators and Teachers according to their choices and the choices of their collective Soul and Monad. Then there is the choice of larger entities. In our example, it’s a group of actors. This is the choice, as I mentioned, of collective Souls, Monads, the planetary spirit, and so on. Through the interaction of all these small scenarios, the overall scenario will be constructed, where everyone will follow the path determined by their individual and collective choice, that is, the choice of the individual and the choice of the collective soul.

So, will the transition happen all at once or gradually?

The speed will largely depend on you. A gradual scenario is anticipated since active intervention in your affairs and bringing you to a new level at a faster pace can create various destructive thought forms and fears. But for those who want to make the leap, such an opportunity will be provided.

How much will the number of phantoms (projections of people without awareness) in the observable space increase by the end of 2015 compared to 2011? Will there be phantoms at the beginning of 4D?

In 4D, there is no need for phantoms. In 4D, you will learn to create your own space. Previously, phantoms were created to provide you with various learning scenarios. Since everything is more open in 4D, hiding phantoms is impossible. As for phantom projections in your current society, there are about 20% of them now. That means around you, about 20% are phantoms. This percentage will increase to 50% to avoid causing panic and excitement among you so that the appearance of current reality does not change too quickly. But the process is mutual. Some Souls will be withdrawn from the planes of physical reality, and consequently, the planet’s population will decrease. Accordingly, phantom lines of your population will be created. But at a certain stage, when there are more phantoms than people, decisions will be made about those who remain. What’s the point of a society where there are more phantoms than living beings?

Part 56. Viruses of the Anti-World

We haven't communicated with you for a long time.

Your thoughts are open. You are searching and communicating with others. But whether it's been a long time or a short time—these are linear concepts. Everything exists simultaneously, here and now, in the vast space-time continuum created by you and for you, which is why we have never stopped communicating with you.

Various rumors and information about you continue to circulate. For example:

On April 30, 2013, Lucifer, after returning to the Light due to his rebellion and conducting yet another destructive experiment, was finally dissolved.

How do you comment on this?

I advise you to treat any information that specifies dates with skepticism. Time does not exist. Therefore, to say that I or someone else was dissolved precisely on April 30, 2013, is to make the Higher Beings laugh. This date exists only in your consciousness. Moreover, Time itself flows entirely differently on other levels. What for you is an entire lifetime is less than a blink of an eye for God-like Beings, or—as you have been told—a flutter of the eyelash.

Let’s assume that I was indeed dissolved, but this process cannot take even as long as a blink, let alone a day in your timekeeping. Be skeptical of numbers given to you in the form of percentages, quantities of people, and other assessments. Remember that these are all your systems of measurement. They mean nothing to Eternity.

So, were you not dissolved for all the deeds you have committed?

I am my Father's son, and I love Him as a Father. I carried out the mission that was predestined for me.

Who predestined it?

The First Creator.

So, you mean that it wasn’t your initiative, but rather a suggestion from a higher Creator—the First Creator?

At the core of Creation lies a thought. And the thought of the First Creator created the duality of the world. I took up the baton; I agreed with this. I volunteered to help in the realization of this thought-form of the First Creator. I became the executor, in your language. The executor and the volunteer.

A volunteer for what exactly?

You have already been told that the thought of the First Creator was about the division into the seeker, the search, and the sought, as mentioned in one of your books. In reality, it’s all one.

Or, you could say: into activity and passivity, distancing and closeness, analysis and synthesis. And so on. I became the seeker, I became activity, I became distancing, I became analysis. Call it what you want.

Or, you could say you became Darkness.

Someone had to become this so that His thought—His initiative—could be realized.

So, the First Creator gives orders, as it were?

This is not the case. It’s an intention to which those who resonate with it, those who have the corresponding energies for the realization of this intention, are drawn. The thought of the First Creator itself creates an energetically colored zone into which, like a magnet by resonance, the beings are drawn to whom this is resonant, or, in your language, interesting. This sparked a resonance-interest in me.

Are you saying that this was not your initiative?

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