10. Trumps' Roll Back of Science with Gina McCarthy

This week we explore the roll back of President Obama’s Clean Power Plan by the Trump EPA and the replacement with a new rule that will increase emissions and damage human health. We also explore the wider attack on science taking place inside the Trump Administration. Then we talk to Gina McCarthy, former Administrator of the EPA and author of many of the rules in the Clean Power Plan. She lets us in on what is happening, and what still makes her optimistic.